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#97683 04/06/14 03:20 AM
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Given the current snow pack levels, is May 19th an unreasonable start date for the JMT from Happy Isles? Planning on 10 miles a day for re-supply at Muir or Vermillion if they are open on or around May 30 to June 1. I can delay departure up to 2 weeks if advisable. Any and all advice appreciated.

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Originally Posted By JohnG
Given the current snow pack levels, is May 19th an unreasonable start date for the JMT from Happy Isles? Planning on 10 miles a day for re-supply at Muir or Vermillion if they are open on or around May 30 to June 1. I can delay departure up to 2 weeks if advisable. Any and all advice appreciated.

JohnG, I thought some folks would have responded by now to this. I'll offer my two cents.

I suspect your biggest issues are going to be snow and creek levels. The Yosemite Valley floor is at about 4000 feet and within a few days you'll be at 9000'+ in Tuolumne Meadows. Assuming you're doing the entire JMT you'll be hitting high passes in the 12,000' - 13,000' range within a couple weeks after starting, depending on how fast you're planning on going.

Currently down in the Whitney region there's continuous snow from Lower Boyscout Lake at 10,300'. Farther north it's 9000'+. Although the forecast for now is looking sunny and warm the months of April and May can be stormy months in the Sierra.

Assuming you hit snow on the trail you can expect it to be a mix of a consolidated snowpack that's easily walked on to unconsolidated snow that gets soft by mid morning and prone to post holing sometimes over your knees and occasionally up to your hip.

It's still too early to predict how much snow will be around by mid-May but I wouldn't count on it being free of snow just yet. On a normal snow year as temperatures warm up in late May and June the snowpack seems to melt at a rate of about 500' per week.

My personal opinion would be to wait a couple weeks. The only trade off with the snowpack is the creeks may be a bit more swollen.


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Hi Thanks Kurt for the post I was waiting to not be the bad guy! As always when summer is near and temps are hitting 90+ at home it is hard to understand the deep snow that holds in the higher elevation even on thes very dry winters , drifts and late season storms may it a wild card. We have had some very heavy storms in May causing one guide to quit guiding took two days to get his clients down from Upper Boyscout Lake.

So if you leave early expect you may need to hold up or bail Thanks Doug

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Thank you Kurt and Doug. This is the expert advice I was looking for. I will delay my departure at LEAST two weeks if not longer depending on the April and May weather. Thanks again for you time and concern.

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Your resupply options may be limited by an early start date. I've conversed with the Muir Trail Ranch -- they plan to open June 21st, no earlier. Vermillion plans to open June 1st. I've pushed my JMT start date to the 2nd week in June to take advantage of MTR opening date. Good luck on you hike.

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JohnG, VVR is a resupply/rest stop that should be on your list - great hosts, atmosphere, food (and they have beer/wine!). Enjoy your adventure.


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