That is good info Kurt, thank you. We will be camping near Solder Lake on the 27th, and will start our ascent of NAP on the morning of the 28th probably around 7:30am. I expect to be at NAP by 9:30 or so. After a little break, we head down to the Cottonwood Lakes. So we will be going down any snow with our packs on, but we both do have trekking poles. Mike