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just got a few stainless steel bottles to replace some plastic ones because...

www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200311/lol5.asp


www.guyotdesigns.com/stainlessbottles?sc=11&category=...

www.kleankanteen.com/index.html

... & because a cocktail glass only goes so far

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Plastic containers of any kind release some particles. Ever wonder why the water bottle you left in the car on a hot day tastes like um plastic? The ultimate would be glass. It seems to be the most inert. But glass bottles and hiking don't mix. Stainless steel maybe? Aluminum? That may lead to Alzheimer's....

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Here's the release from the NIH:
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oc/news/bisphen.htm

Note that the caged were chemically deteriorated for the release to occur. I have yet to see any nalgene bottles on the trail that fit this description.

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Originally Posted By Memory Lapse
If the leeching of chemicals from plastics into water is such a problem, maybe we should look into the bottled water industry. Based on the volume of sales of these products, there would appear to be a greater risk there.

Hey, soft drink and fruit juice products are primarily water, so what about them. And by the way, many of them contain chemicals which may enhance the leeching process.

I raise these possibilities because I think the whole issue is much ado about nothing.


I love the irony of this whole issue. The idea of paying the cost of bottled water would have sounded ridiculous except maybe in the last 15 years or so...now it's standard operating procedure. First it was only yuppies that bought it, now they've moved on to the gourmet brands, and even the vast unwashed drink bottled water. And after all that, it's the container that's poisoning them all, not the water 8^).

I would guesss it'a a bit overblown, but when something tastes like the container, I think that's a warning sign, especially when the materials making up the container look like a chem lab test.

I bought a stainless steel cup a few months ago, with a carabiner handle for belt clipping; works great for stream-dipping, and stainless steel seems like it would remain intact, in the cup itself, not polluting what it contains.

As for soda, I'd think the 9 teaspoons of sugar or the phony sweetener would be a far greater threat to anyone's well-being than anything the container could add. If you're going to drink that stuff, why worry about it?


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If it were a major problem these bottles would not be on the market.

If you are concerned about it either replace your bottle every couple of years or don't use them at all.

I used them for few quarts of water 3 or 4 times a year. It just is not something I worry about.

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Originally Posted By wbtravis5152
If it were a major problem these bottles would not be on the market.


That depends on your definition of 'major'.

I don't count on the US government to protect me whenever there is a conflict between business interest and consumer safety.

My wife and I became interested in this when my wife got pregnant. Many of the milk bottles on the market have BPA in them. Most companies are quietly phasing the chemical out because studies have shown the chemical disrupts children's hormones (and to a lesser extent, adults'). Expect class action suits to follow.

We ended up going with bottles made in Europe.

What was shocking to me was that Lexan was among the *worst* plastic bottles you can choose.

I had always assumed that since Lexan didn't impart much flavor to water, it was a better choice than my old smelly HDPE Nalgene.

I understand the argument that these chemical exposures are small, and we shouldn't overreact. However, humans today are exposed to vastly more (and larger quantities) of chemicals than even a generation or two ago. For that reason, I try to reduce my and my family's exposure a little bit here and there when I can.

It's the cumulative effect I'm worried most about.

http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/114/nalgene
http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/ask/nalgene

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Originally Posted By wbtravis5152
If it were a major problem these bottles would not be on the market.



Oh how naive we can be. Cigarettes, tobacco of any kind, Fluoridated water supply, Saccharin, etc. Where theres money, theres a bad product being pushed on us...

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I think the only real danger from these bottles is a hernia, from their excessive weight!

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Bard,

Then just don't use the product.

I've read the articles and there is nothing there that changes my mind about using this product for a few quarts of water 4 or 5 times a year.

The rest of the stuff you mention the data is out there for you to make an informed decision about their use

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Nalgene may be unsafe, but bottled water is killing the planet:

The New Public Enemy Number One

(don't you just love hysteria?)

Personally, I've never understood the enamourment with bottled water, unless I'm in a country where the tap water is unsafe to drink. Always seemed like a waste of money as well as a questionable use of resources, both in the packaging and in the transportation thereof.


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