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#43805 12/28/07 04:13 AM
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Hello,

I did my day hike years ago and I've seen activity on this board concerning G.P.S. and rescue services. Recently I've seen TV adds for this --- http://findmespot.com/ It would be great for rescue and especially helpful and comforting if you hike alot or alone. After the initial cost of the unit, it costs about $100 year for a subscription. Just thought someone would be interested. Happy Hiking.
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I am seriously considering getting this for my teenage son who ventures out in the wilderness to go hiking and rock climbing. I have confidence he knows what to do in an emergency situation, but this would ease my concerns some when the unexpected may happen with a situation when he could not get back or needs help.
Thank you!

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You're welcome. I hike in Anza-Borrego Desert State Park (alone) and I've looked, in the past, for an affordable device like this, for my own peace of mind. Glad someone else will find it useful.
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I would be interested in hearing anyones experience with this device. I do a lot of solo hiking, which really unnerves my wife. I saw this device several months ago and thought it might be a nice thing to have to reassure her.

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Originally Posted By pumpmonkey
I would be interested in hearing anyones experience with this device. I do a lot of solo hiking, which really unnerves my wife. I saw this device several months ago and thought it might be a nice thing to have to reassure her.


Yes, I've heard about these for a few years but this one is the first that is pretty affordable. The others I've looked at were around $400 and were not so versatile.

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Has anyone on this BB actually used this? Or, at least, personally knows someone who has used it? I hike alone and used to have a good check-in system but that broke down a few years ago. I would be very interested in getting one if I can be confident it really works. Thanks.

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An answer to my own query: The REI website has 3 users' reviews, 2 favorable, one not. See: REI.com - product review

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When buying such a device I usually go to Amazon.com, not necessarily to buy, but to read what others have posted about the product. I find it a great source for truthful opinions coming from people who have actually bought the product. Anyway, here are more comments on "Spot" from people who own.
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000YE04G2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

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Originally Posted By Jerry

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000YE04G2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Jerry


Incidentally, on the right hand side of that page, note the prices of some of the PLB's!

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Originally Posted By pumpmonkey
I would be interested in hearing anyones experience with this device. I do a lot of solo hiking, which really unnerves my wife. I saw this device several months ago and thought it might be a nice thing to have to reassure her.


I just got one for Christmas and it seems to work fine. I do a lot of solo hiking in the Spring Mountains and around Las Vegas. It is nice to let my wife know that I am ok every now and then when there is no cell phone reception.

Haven't had to use the Help or 911 feature, thankfully, but feel confident that they will work just as good as the OK feature.

You can notify people by e-mail and text to phone. I don't know if there is a limit on how many numbers or addresses you can notify but I have 3 e-mails addresses and 2 phones to notify for the OK and 3 of each for Help. If you use the 911 feature it will send info to all numbers as well as the company getting hold of 2 people by phone to get more detailed info on what activity you might be doing.

I like it and it seems to work fine.

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Thanks to everyone for their advice. I read the reviews (ebay) and its great to hear from someone on this messageboard for their experience. I plan to once again hike the HST in September, this past September (Crescent Meadow to Moraine Lake) there was no cell coverage and a device like this would go alone way in communicating with the home base.

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Originally Posted By pumpmonkey
I plan to once again hike the HST in September, this past September (Crescent Meadow to Moraine Lake) there was no cell coverage and a device like this would go alone way in communicating with the home base.


If you do buy/use this would you mind letting us know what you think of it? Thanks and Happy Hiking.

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LOL! I need one of those!

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Yeah, me too. I canceled part of a trip once because we ran out Alaskan Amber...damn, I hate when that happens.

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There is a review in this month's GPS magazine:
http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2008/01/spot_satellite_messenger_perso.php?referer=sphere_related_content


Another review in the WSJ:
Phoning Home Without a Phone
Simple Device Alerts
Emergency Contacts
From Remote Areas
January 30, 2008; Page D5
On a chilly day, most folks find it tough to open the front door to retrieve the newspaper -- much less climb a 15,000-foot mountain. But plenty of people court danger by rappelling down canyons and camping in remote woodlands. This week, I tested a device that will give thrill seekers a little extra insurance: It lets the folks back home track their progress, and learn when they're OK or when they're in trouble.

When activated, the $170 SPOT Satellite Messenger from SPOT Inc., the Milpitas, Calif., unit of Globalstar Inc., emits a signal to GPS satellites, which notify SPOT's messaging service. The service then sends a message to friends, family or emergency rescue teams about your current status. Because it uses GPS technology, the SPOT will work even when you're far from cellphone signal range and anywhere in the world.

I tested SPOT in my Washington, D.C., neighborhood (city parks still count as outdoorsy) and on a trip across the California desert and mountains on the way to a conference -- though I was scaling mountains in an air-conditioned SUV rather than in a rock-climbing harness.


In my tests, SPOT worked without a problem. Notifications from the device were delivered to my friends via email and text message and included my current latitude and longitude. The service also sent along canned messages that I set up in advance on the company's Web site at www.findmespot.com and hyperlinks to Google Maps that showed my location.

SPOT charges a $100 annual service fee, which includes an unlimited number of messages that can be sent out from your device using three buttons: OK/Check, Help and 911. An additional $50 per year tracking service called SPOTcasting follows and marks your exact location every 10 minutes for 24 hours each time it's initiated.

This simple and straightforward device could really help in a dangerous situation. And the company takes its job seriously: A steely message on the SPOT packaging reads, "Opening this box is the first step in making sure you don't come home in one." But SPOT could also save the day in less-adventurous situations, such as when your car dies and you're out of cellphone range.

However, SPOT isn't perfect. While its three message-sending buttons make it easy to use, they also limit the types of messages it can send. There's no keyboard, so messages must be brief and set up in advance on the Web site. And the device only sends messages and can't receive them. Your friends and family have no way of getting back in touch with you on SPOT should you send a Help message from beyond cellphone range.

SPOT is a bright orange device with roughly the same surface measurement as a BlackBerry, though it's considerably thicker. Its durable casing makes it waterproof and floatable, along with working in extremes like -40 degrees Fahrenheit and up to 21,000 feet above sea level. It runs on two AA lithium batteries, which last for different amounts of time according to the type of message being sent.

Setting up SPOT took only a few minutes on the Web site. A default or personalized message can be set up to go out with OK/Check and Help notifications, and email addresses and cellphone numbers (for SMS text messages) can be entered online as the destinations for these messages. Every message includes the user's current location in terms of latitude and longitude, along with a hyperlink to access that location via Google Maps.


SPOT sends messages and location information via satellite, including points that can be tracked on a map.
The OK/Check button can be used most casually by owners of this gadget, as it merely serves to assure others that you're fine. A good example might be two people on a three-month sailing trip who use this button as a means of checking in with family every Sunday night.

If OK/Check is held down for five seconds, it initiates the SPOTcasting tracking service (provided you've signed up for it) and locates your device every 10 minutes for a 24-hour period. These tracked points show up on SPOT's Web site and are displayed as numbered points on Google Maps.

SPOT worked for me while driving through a regional park with a campsite, where cellphone range was faint, and up into boulder-crusted mountains. Just minutes after pressing Help or OK/Check or initiating tracking, friends received word of my location via emails and text messages.

You can't set SPOT to track a trip for longer than 24 hours or at different intervals, such as every hour for a week. And the only way for others to view your tracked points is if they sign in using your online account's username and password.

The Help button is used in more urgent situations and uses messages such as "Urgent help needed. Pick me up at campsite." (The default for Help is "This is a HELP message. Please send for help ASAP.") But preset messages shouldn't be made too specific during the online setup because they can't be changed from the device later.

The 911 and Help automatic notifications will always override less urgent messages like OK/Check or SPOTcasting. In the case of the 911 and Help buttons, one can be pressed after the other and the messages for both will still go out at the same time. The 911 button will send a message every five minutes until power runs out (the company says this will last for up to seven days) or until the message is canceled; Help sends a message every five minutes for an hour or until canceled.

The 911 button is more serious. When pressed, SPOT Inc. automatically notifies a certified 911 company called the GEOS International Emergency Response Center, which contacts your specified emergency contacts first to see if they know anything about your situation before dispatching a rescue squad using your coordinates.

If you can adjust to SPOT's three-button approach, the device could be helpful for you or someone you know during outdoor adventures. Many people will buy SPOT simply for its 911 button, as an insurance policy on fluky cellphone service.


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The Spot is Backpacker Editors’ Choice Award winner for 2008---along with a few other products.

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I was wondering if any of you guys and gals ever pack flares in the backcountry.
(obviously handheld not parachute).
I would think a plume of red smoke would attract a bit of attention.
Just a thought!


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Cori and I used her SPOT unit this past weekend in Anza Borrego http://www.flickr.com/photos/21042415@N02/sets/72157603937910715/detail/ to send OK messgaes home and it worked perfectly. Each email (or text) message is sent with a link to your location on Google Maps and you can view that in map, sattelite or terrain mode. It displays your time in GMT, so be sure your recipients know that (+8 hrs to PST).

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Dave -- I copied your message over on the San Jacinto Message Board. It was a counterpoint to a very different SPOT result reported there.
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My friend received a SPOT for Christmas from his wife. She wanted to know that he was "OK" so they thought this would be a great way for him to let her know all was well. When you press the OK button on the SPOT, it is supposed to send transmit an email to whatever addresses you set up showing you are OK and your position. My friend set it up so the emails would go to his wife.

As we walked up the trail from Humber Park to about halfway to the summit, he would periodically press the OK button under all conditions of trial cover, canyons, etc.

After the hike, he called his wife who was upset he never pressed the button; she had received nothing. He called the SPOT service number and they told him there was a delay of up to 20 minutes between the time he pressed the button and the time the signal was emitted. So, he would press the button and put the unit back in his bag. Apparently the bag blocked the signal and/or the tree cover. I've used satellite phones before and had the same problem of tree cover. Driving a car through heavy woods in Yosemite will cause the satellite radio to go out. All in all, not real comforting.

My friend tested the SPOT with me in our local hills when he was mountain biking. I received the email showing he was near the bottom of the hill. When he came back, he told me he pressed the button at the top of the hill and the delay was why it showed him in a different position. This is another drawback insofar as the signal is so delayed he was in a completely different location by the time the device decided to emit the signal.

The real life test was a complete failure.

Personally, I like the true 406MHZ PLB.

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