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For you ultra lighters I have this bag: http://www.nunatakusa.com/Sleeping_Bag_Akula.html

I love it. The company is great. They will customize it to a certain degree for you as well. This coupled with a down jacket or a few layers is great. I think you get a choice of fabric as well and can ask them to overstuff it if you'd like. You can seriously stuff it in your pocket. I have also used it inside my full down bag for extra warmth down to -5 or so.

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I have the 2lb Big Agnes 0 degree bag and insertable air pad. They were were both lightweight and amazingly comfortable.The only complaint is when you lie on your side you have to open the mummy head zipper or leave only an ear out the openning as someone earlier asked.The insertable pad is great though because there is no rolling or sliding off your pad and ending up sleeping on only a portion of it.That pad stays right with your bag.

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Originally Posted By DocRodneydog
I have the 2lb Big Agnes 0 degree bag and insertable air pad.

Their current 0 degree bag weighs 2 lbs 11 oz.
Western's 0 degree bag weighs 2 lbs 15 oz.

The BA bag is 4 oz lighter (and cut a little wider too). But with no insulation on the bottom you have to carry a full length pad or else your feet will probably get cold.

When winter camping I often use a 3/4 length Prolite 4 and just prop my feet on my pack. If I had a BA bag I'd have to carry a larger pad which would more than offset the initial weight savings. It'd be a heavier system.

The advantage of a few ounces saved in some circumstances and the possible merit of never being able to roll off the pad together just don't add up to enough to make up for the loss of flexibility, at least for me.

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For those on a budget. I got a +30degree mummy bag by Alpine Designs for $39. Works good and it's under 2lbs. You can get it at the local Sports Authority.

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RAC, Hope you don't mind if I piggyback on your thread. I've got related question.

Question: My sleeping bag concern is volume. I want a bag that will stuff as small as possible.

If y'all don't mind responding again: How small are you getting your bags stuffed down to? Obviously the higher the bag rating, the less insulation, so it'd be smaller - I get that. But, what volume are you all seeing with your 30, 20, 10 degree bags?

Here's why I ask: On winter, alpine day hikes, I take along a sleeping bag and bivy just in case of an emergency need for an overnight bivouac. I don't need to be warm and toasty. It's assumed I'd be wearing most of my clothes in the bag and probably be in a snow shelter. But I do need to be warm enough to survive a night or two. Given that, I can go with a higher rated bag of course. In that category, I'd like it as small as possible.

Again, this would not be a normal "camping" situation where some degree of comfort is desired - just survival. My 20-year old REI 0-20 degree (I forget and it doesn't say) bag that I've been using for this purpose fills the entire bottom compartment of my pack when stuffed, and is still huge even in a compression sack!!! So, I'm in the market for another, smaller, lighter one.

Only place to really get this info is from people who've used the various bags - you guys. I've heard the Marmot bags stuff down really small. Is it true?

I'd really appreciate whatever you can tell me! Thanks!

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My Mountain Hardwear Phantom 32 will stuff into a bag about the length of a Nalgene bottle and perhaps half again the diamter. BUT, I never do that. My backpacks are about 4,000 c.i. and I fill the bottom third of them with my sleeping bag loosely stuffed into a large trash bag. I prefer to keep the loft as loose as possible. This also makes my essentially-frameless pack (G4) ride better on my back, forming a back brace of sorts.

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Originally Posted By ClamberAbout
RAC, Hope you don't mind if I piggyback on your thread. I've got related question.

Question: My sleeping bag concern is volume. I want a bag that will stuff as small as possible.

If y'all don't mind responding again: How small are you getting your bags stuffed down to? Obviously the higher the bag rating, the less insulation, so it'd be smaller - I get that. But, what volume are you all seeing with your 30, 20, 10 degree bags?

Here's why I ask: On winter, alpine day hikes, I take along a sleeping bag and bivy just in case of an emergency need for an overnight bivouac. I don't need to be warm and toasty. It's assumed I'd be wearing most of my clothes in the bag and probably be in a snow shelter. But I do need to be warm enough to survive a night or two. Given that, I can go with a higher rated bag of course. In that category, I'd like it as small as possible.

Again, this would not be a normal "camping" situation where some degree of comfort is desired - just survival. My 20-year old REI 0-20 degree (I forget and it doesn't say) bag that I've been using for this purpose fills the entire bottom compartment of my pack when stuffed, and is still huge even in a compression sack!!! So, I'm in the market for another, smaller, lighter one.

Only place to really get this info is from people who've used the various bags - you guys. I've heard the Marmot bags stuff down really small. Is it true?

I'd really appreciate whatever you can tell me! Thanks!



See my previous post. You can almost put that one in your pocket.

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I use a MontBell Ultra Light Super Stretch Down Hugger #2 rated to 25 degrees. The bag has tons of room to move around - I am a restless sleeper - I think the shoulder girth expands to 70+ inches but the elastic keeps the bag snug around you to reduce any dead air space. The bag has a DWR finish and the fabric has held up extremely well to 3 years of use. As for compressed size - mine compresses down to the size of a large cantaloupe and it weighs less than 2lbs. On really cold nights I wear my long underwear and it has kept me warm down to about 15 degrees.
During summer months I use an REI Travel Down Bag rated to 45 degrees and that one also compresses pretty small. It too is light weight and does the trick.
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Originally Posted By AsABat
I prefer to keep the loft as loose as possible.


I've talked to the Feathered Friends guys about this and they say it makes no difference to the bag when you stuff it down during a climb.

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I've heard that too, but have found my bag does loft up faster when carried looser. My usual backpack has the room, and was designed this way. This method puts a large volume (guessing 1,000 ci) of lightweight (1.5 pounds) stuff at the bottom of the bag, getting the rest of the weight higher and, more important for me, creating a very comfortable fit as the bag forms part of a wraparound hip belt. (I use a GVP G4 pack).

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My WM Summerlite packs down in it's stuff sack to about 1.5 times the volume of a nalgene bottle, and weighs 1 lb 3 oz. I have used it in the upper 20s comfortably.

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