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#49086 06/23/08 10:36 PM
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Looking forward to my first camping weekend of the season this coming weekend at the Portal, and since I am taking the whole family I was wondering if I could get a report of how prevalent the mossies are right now at the campground. I know they are alive and well, but just wondering how it is at the Portal right now. Can someone give me a report?

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Keep plenty of bug juice around. They're thick enough to feel them everywhere when you wave your hand.

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Moosetracks: I'm headed out on the HST with a couple buddies next weekend. Do you think it's safe to assume heavy bugs all week along this trail?

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Well, I don't know in particular how heavy they might be, I mean, they do have to fly around all the time and all and I know from experience that's a lot to haul... smirk grin

Yes, I might recommend using the spray fixative on your clothing prior to the trip (Ken, help me out here, what's this stuff called again???) and then bring your bug spray/net of choice.

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Mosquito control for severe conditions

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Encountering and suffering from mosquitos seems to be part of the Sierra experience, especially in early summer. Severe conditions can range from the annoying, to producing actual danger from skin infections resulting either from the bites themselves, or from secondary scratching. Under the worst conditions, people can experience thousands of bites, and the incessant buzzing can make grown people cry.

Each year, those highly experienced on the trails encounter numerous people who are learning, the hard way, that many things touted for mosquito control do not work for most people.

Comparison of various repellents:
http://bexar-tx.tamu.edu/IPM/Landscape/F2/InsectRepellents.htm

Beyond any question or debate, DEET (N,N-Diethyltoluamide) is the only product available to place on the skin that consistantly works well. Frequently heard is concern that DEET may be a toxic chemical, but this is far from true. DEET is one of the most-used chemicals in the world, and it has been among the most-tested chemicals that exists. WHEN USED AS DIRECTED, it is very safe. The very rare situations in which side effects have occurred, it has been when the directions were NOT followed, such as immersing a child in it.

A newer product for mosquito protection, is permethrin, a product that has been used for the treatment of lice for decades. In it's mosquito usage, it is applied ONLY to clothing and allowed to dry. It works best when the material is saturated. Unlike DEET, which is only a repellant and does no harm to the insect, permethrin BOTH repells mosquitos and also kills them!! It will remain active through at least 5 washings, or several months. There have been virtually no reactions reported worldwide after decades of use.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as the World Health Organization both recommend the use of BOTH permethrin and DEET for maximal protection, especially in regions where mosquito disease transmission exists.

Those who have used the combination in bad mosquito areas find the combination remarkable at keeping the bugs at bay. Additionally, the permethrin eliminates biting through treated clothing.

For those who are afflicted by these insects, this represents a major step forward.
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Hmmm... so I'm guessing those expensive buzz-off shirts are permithrin treated as well? Can one buy this stuff and treat a regular hiking shirt oneself?

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Neel: Yes, you can usually buy the aerosol spray and treat your clothing. That's what I did before the trek last summer and it was a piece of cake, just make sure everything is totally dry before you bring it in.

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I usually use DEET, and have only encountered one location where even 100% DEET had poor performance (on Bear Creek). Has anyone tried the Picaridin?

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I've had great success with Picaridin (Cutter Advanced and other trade names) under all sorts of conditions, recently including intense physical workouts, heavy sweating, etc. In addition it will not stain or damage clothing or tent material or other polyesters. From what I've read it was thoroughly tested in Europe under standards far more strenuous than here, and found to be safer than DEET, but the warnings on the label are a bit scary - no more than 3X applications per day, flammable, etc. One warning you should take to heart: you don't want it in your eyes. After about a week or so marinating in it you pick up a unique and peculiar smell - I thought mine akin to pepperoni pizza but my compatriots seemed to act as though it was not nearly that pleasant. It takes 2-3 good showers to get the smell off your body.

There were some comments from others on the board a few years ago concerning Picaridin and my take-away was that the opinions ranged from useless to very good. Maybe it has something to do with individual body chemistry.

A good strategy if you are in a group is to have a couple solutions, including Picaridin, so you can try it out.

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