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This will be disputed by numerous people, but due to the cool weather I only used 20 oz of water on the way up and 50 oz total for the entire hike. My wife only used 30 oz total. The most I've ever used is 100 oz on a really hot day. I was pleased with my time until I saw Whitney-N1 go flying by at Trail Camp. We talked later at the Portal Store and he told me it took him 3:45 to summit and he too used very little water. Here is a list of time information for those who are interested in that kind of thing. I'm sorry about the appearance of the time info, but no matter how I try, it won't space the numbers properly.
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Started at 3:59am Marker-------------------Elevation-Miles---Time Whitney Portal Trailhead-8,360---0-------0 John Muir Wilderness Sign8,730--0.8-----0:20 Lone Pine Lake-----------9,850- -2.5-----1:10 Outpost Camp-----------10,365--3.5----1:33/1:42 Mirror Lake---------------10,640---4-------1:53 Trailside Meadow--------11,395--5-------2:16 Trail Camp---------------12,000--6-------2:42/2:49 Lowest Elevation Cables12,630--?-------3:16 Trail Crest----------------13,600--8.2-----3:49 Mt Whitney Summit-----14,496--10.7----4:45
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Mt Whitney Summit-------14,496--0-------0 Trail Crest----------------13,600--2.5-----0:54 Lowest Elevation Cables-12,630--?-------1:29 Trail Camp----------------12,000--4.7-----1:56 Trailside Meadow---------11,395--5.7-----2:18 Mirror Lake---------------10,640--6.7-----2:40 Outpost Camp------------10,365--7.2-----2:50 Lone Pine Lake-----------9,850---8.2-----3:12 John Muir Wilderness Sign8,730--9.9-----3:49 Whitney Portal Trailhead-8,360--10.7----4:06
We finished at 1:26pm Total time on the mountain (9:27)
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I'm waiting for the dispute. FWIW, I believe you about your water usage. :-)
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Dan, I believe yuo on the water requirements. I used very little water on a trip last week. I never have used much and have summited 3 and 9/10 times. I'm like a camel, I guess. And I only had 12 hours exposure to high altitude at Grandview (9,000') in the Whites a month ago. I suffered no ill affects from the altitude whatsoever. For what it's worth, everyone's requirements are different.
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While many people have made the trip fast and, under the right conditions with the right training and physiology, with little water, please remember that there are many inexperienced climbers on this board who read something like this and think that they can do the same. If your life depended on it, you could probably climb Whitney with no water, but what's the point - it would be dangerous. For most of the people climbing Whitney in summer conditions, half to one liter per hour or per thousand vertical feet is not a bad rule of thumb (your mileage may vary).
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I drank 7 quarts on my day hike up to Mt. Russell. Although I don't always drink that much, I wouldn't want the average person going without enough water and getting dehydrated. I would suspect most people need to drink more water then you, since they are up on the mountain much longer.
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I believe your water consumption but I also believe you dehydrated. This consumption rate would not be good for most people, and may a causitive factor in the onset of AMS in a lot of people.
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I went up the main trail 3 years ago but now I forget if there is much access to water along that route. Are there streams & such? I am planning an ascent on August 11. Thanks, Peter
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Pbakwin: Water is easy to find on/off up to Trail camp. There is also a small spring a little up the 97 switchbacks. Above that plan on carrying all your water.
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Dan, It's great to see your times. You guys haul butt! There was no word on how you matched up with Vicki???? Give her my best. Good luck next month on the Pikes Peak. You guys are crazy! I am running the St George Marathon in October. This is a good course for a PR and qualifying for Boston. You should look into it. If you pass through Salt Lake on the way to Pikes stop by and say hi. When you do Whitney again let me know and me and Mike will make every effort to go with you guys. It would be a lot of fun to run with the best! take care. Steve
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Hey, Utah Steve! It was great to hear from you. I guess you probably didn't read my post about who made it to the top first! Well, as I sit here in my pity pot whining about how I let Dan get so far ahead of me that I just couldn't catch him, I've decided that maybe I just shouldn't be so social and save everything for the trail. I was 15min. behind him this time but we all know how I whooped him last year and with Pikes Peak next month I think I have a good chance to make a come back! Ha ha. It's all in fun! We really enjoy the challenge that we place upon each other. We are also going to run St. George Marathon this year. We were supposed to run last year but I came down with ankle injury and it just wasn't smart to push it. If you are serious about Whitney next year, keep in mind we do it every year at the end of July. If it works out for you and Mike we can get the permits. Just let us know. Now you should go to my other post, response to trip report July 26th, and see what I wrote about our trip and how I even included a note to you! Happy hiking, Vickie
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