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#57496 01/21/09 05:47 PM
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Hi all,

I just got a MSR WhisperLite Int. stove. Would anyone please suggest what kind of fuel to use with it?

MSR SuperFuel is too expensive, what is another branch or type of fuel beside motor fuel can I use?

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Goto Sportsmart & get a gallon of that camper fuel in the red can. It'll last you forever.


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Originally Posted By TBT

what is another branch or type of fuel beside motor fuel can I use?


never use automotive gas. It is more flammable and dangerous than camp stove fuel. different volatility.

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Whatever cheap white gas you get...a lot of different kinds out there too...all seem to work ok but...
Filter it first. I just run mine through a paper cone paint filter...saves clogging up the MSR.


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MSR International stoves are designed to use many different types of fuel, including gasoline. While white gas is the most efficient and burns the cleanest, its availability in some parts of the world is limited. I've used gasoline with my MSR Dragonfly International and it worked fine.


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This is the fuel I have used in my Whisper lite, as mentioned above

http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-45832/Detail

I have also used this fuel, from REI

http://www.rei.com/product/614110

This is the expensive stuff.

http://www.rei.com/product/721999

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Originally Posted By markskor
Whatever cheap white gas you get...a lot of different kinds out there too...all seem to work ok but...
Filter it first. I just run mine through a paper cone paint filter...saves clogging up the MSR.


Thanks for this info....over the years I have had some real issues with my MSR clogging up....when I need it most in the backcountry.

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Originally Posted By mono
Goto Sportsmart & get a gallon of that camper fuel in the red can. It'll last you forever.


In my experience it will not. Either you will use the stove a lot and therefore the fuel will be spent quickly, or you don't use the stove enough to do that and the fuel gradually loses its volatility and doesn't burn as well. I first experienced this at Round Valley one February (6 feet of snow) when I couldn't figure out why my Whisperlite kept sputtering and only burning about as hot as Sterno. Changing the fuel made all the difference.

I mostly use alcohol stoves now, so when I do buy white gas I just buy a quart to save the hassle of throwing the rest away. Unless I just want to pour the rest in a gopher hole in the back yard and light 'er up. (Just kidding.)

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White gas burns clean and is probably the best. Like others have said though car gas works fine too. Use the highest octane available to you.

If you're using it a lot buy a gallon of white gas and I think you'll be happy with it. Coleman seems to be the most common brand out there but any white gas is fine. If you're not using your stove that often and a smaller amount of MSR is too expensive for you buy premium car gas. Just be prepared to occasionally clean out the fuel line and bring a cleaning needle to poke the jet clean. I like having one of these with me even if my stove has a "shaker" jet.


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Thank you for all your inputs. I learn from all of you

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With automotive gasoline, I would think that the lower octane fuel would work better. Higher octane usually means more aromatics, which don't burn as easily, and give more soot. White gas is actually more volatile that regular automotive gas, it is essentially hexane-heptane range aliphatics.

The biggest problem with auto gasoline is the additives. They can result in more toxic fumes, and cause clogging in the stove.

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Jet fuel works too but it's smelly, sticky, sooty, and just all around messy. Hard to get started and blows out easily.

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Jet fuel is essentially kerosene. There is some variation in boiling range and flashpoint for the different jet fuels (JP4, JP8, etc), but not much.

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Originally Posted By AsABat
Originally Posted By mono
Goto Sportsmart & get a gallon of that camper fuel in the red can. It'll last you forever.


In my experience it will not. Either you will use the stove a lot and therefore the fuel will be spent quickly, or you don't use the stove enough to do that and the fuel gradually loses its volatility and doesn't burn as well. I first experienced this at Round Valley one February (6 feet of snow) when I couldn't figure out why my Whisperlite kept sputtering and only burning about as hot as Sterno. Changing the fuel made all the difference.

I mostly use alcohol stoves now, so when I do buy white gas I just buy a quart to save the hassle of throwing the rest away. Unless I just want to pour the rest in a gopher hole in the back yard and light 'er up. (Just kidding.)


Gasoline and white gas will degrade over time, loosing its more volatile components and getting 'gummy' inside the can, fuel bottle, and your stove . As stated above, only buy an amount that you'll use up in short order (less than a season, or a year).

An option I started using is an isobutane canister stove in the warmer spring/summer/fall months. A canister will last 2-3 days if I'm only boiling water (no melting of snow), so I don't have fuel sitting around for years and its really easy to use, simplifying summertime adventures.


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