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Originally Posted By Steve Peacock
Lori, we were going up Ice House trail (out of Mt Baldy Village) one winter morning. We got near the saddle and absolutely could not stand up. Even crawling on hands/elbows and knees and even squirming on belly you would sloooowwwly start to creep off and head down canyon.

Went back the next morning after another coating from an overnight ice storm and walked right on up to the saddle using insteps...which was a little stupid because we had to come back down that same ice. You will find that coming down steep trail with insteps is a bit more challenging than going up.

But when one is determined nothing will stop ya.

These helpers are not always safe, as you can get over confident in situations, even in the San Gabriells, that sometimes really require the full set up, including an ice ax (to stop a slide) and crampons (to get out of that impossibly awkward position you are now in). Mt Baldy at times really gets to be like a very slick temporary glacier with some steep thick ice that covers the 'tourist' trail after big ice storms.

Always best to come back at another time either with re-enforcement or a melting heat wave. Hot chocolate is always nice in front of a big fireplace as an option.


First off, I'm not big on anything with less than 10 points in the mountains.

I go up Icehouse Canyon most winter Saturdays and it has more stupidity per square foot than any place in the local wilderness. I have seen people on their hands and knees descending after going too high, instep crampons slipping out on moderate angle stuff and a multiple injury climbing accident. It's not the up that gets you, usually, it is the down.

The cables always have ice...May, June, July, August and September. When it is wet or during a drought. With the cables it is relatively safe, a place where I have never had a problem. However, the area area which does have a high pucker factor this time of year, and is rarely mentioned, is between Trailside Meadow and Consultation Lake. I have passed through this area a couple of times without thinking...and the key word is thinking. There is an area about 3/4 of the way to Consultation Lake where snow builds up angled towards a multi-hundred foot drop off. Descending through this area without fangs an axe has been my most scary experience in the Mt. Whitney area.

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Originally Posted By Steve Peacock
Insteps are when the trail is icy but you would really look foolish in 12 pointers. They are not something you would be caught with on a glacier, however.

I bought a pair of insteps years ago for crossing the Palisade glacier. We were doing a traverse of the crest and I just needed some points for getting to the rock. Insteps were the lightest thing I could find and they worked okay, sort of.

Never used them again. They sit, unloved, in the bottom of a box at home. The problem with insteps becomes apparent very quickly, even on flat terrain. Here's the thing: every time you lift your heel the points come unglued, so you have to walk around flat footed. They suck.

A far better option is these (made by Camp). They put the points where you need them. They're aluminum and weigh less than a pair of steel insteps.



Not to say that you wouldn't also look silly in these on the trail right now.

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Originally Posted By wbtravis5152

The cables always have ice...May, June, July, August and September. When it is wet or during a drought.


This year being a rare exception. I remember commenting to someone (Laura / Mike) on one of our descents this summer that it was the first time (for me) that there was absolutely no ice at the cables.

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Originally Posted By wbtravis5152
...There is an area about 3/4 of the way to Consultation Lake where snow builds up angled towards a multi-hundred foot drop off. Descending through this area without fangs an axe has been my most scary experience in the Mt. Whitney area.


When conditions are like that I stay well left beginning just below Trailside Meadows on the ascent (right on descent) and avoid that section altogether until it's melted out. Otherwise, there's too much exposure for my comfort level.

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I didn't know of that little trick until few more time through the area. That is the way I go up there now.

Most of these questions are for the neophytes who on the whole want to continue on the trail come hell or high water.

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Just returned and ice was not an issue on September 23--you can walk to the side and avoid all contact.


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Agreed -- no extra equipment was needed through The Cables other than focused attention while hiking on the cable-side of the section. We, too, passed through on our September 23rd dayhike and had no problems.

I might add that there was no water whatsoever on our way past the "spring" (or is it simply melting ice from the adjacent uphill bank?) on Switchback 23 on the ascent, and only slight trickle on the afternoon descent that dampened the earth but was definitely not enough to filter or fill a bottle. Plan accordingly.

Lori, I hope your hike was a good one -- we probably passed each other sometime during the day. What great warm weather we all enjoyed!

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Congratulations, BruinDave! Were you BruinSherpa? Glad to hear your hike was uneventful (except for the water issue on #23).


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