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#55878 11/13/08 03:13 PM
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Article in today's LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-brower13-2008nov13,0,5703880.story

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Wouldn't it be easier to legally change Brower's name to Brewer? It wouldn't require the naming board to act. Then you could say there was a peak with his name. (Although you couldn't really say the peak was named after him because the peak was named well before him; but so was North Palisade.)

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Originally Posted By Dale Dalrymple
Wouldn't it be easier to legally change Brower's name to Brewer? It wouldn't require the naming board to act. Then you could say there was a peak with his name. (Although you couldn't really say the peak was named after him because the peak was named well before him; but so was North Palisade.)

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Getting his signature on the form would be the hard part.

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Isn't the climber in the picture standing below the summit of Mt. Sill and not North Pal?

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This would be just wrong. Go find an unnamed peak and name it after him, for Pete's sake. There are so many things around here that advertise the Palisades, and everyone who lives here, calls them that. This was also very sneaky the way they brought it on. As a local, I'm dead set against it. Go find an unnamed peak! And FYI: the comment in the LA Times article about our local supevisor never hearing about the guy until now also stands for many of us. Norman Clyde? Yes. An icon and hero to many of us.

This guy? Uh...nope! Go find your unnamed peak!

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I'm with Celeste on this one. There are many of unnamed peaks out there. Hell, I even informally named a peak after myself once and yes it was an unnamed peak. Whatever North Palisade is called, I hope to climb it one day but I won't loose any sleep if the name is changed. Come to think of it, perhaps it could be named after my culinary hero, Ronald McDonald. It sure would be fun to see the controversy for that name change. grin

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Originally Posted By Ken
Originally Posted By Dale Dalrymple
Wouldn't it be easier to legally change Brower's name to Brewer? It wouldn't require the naming board to act. Then you could say there was a peak with his name. (Although you couldn't really say the peak was named after him because the peak was named well before him; but so was North Palisade.)

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Getting his signature on the form would be the hard part.


Why would you give a dead man a choice? You must come from one of those places where the dead keep on voting for years.

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This quote says it well.
"So although Dawson believes North Palisade should remain as is, he chooses his words carefully. He knows his opinion carries weight among climbers who revere him as a legend. He also firmly believes Brower saved his life.

"I feel a certain personal debt to David Brower. I'm not going to take a [public] position," he said. "But I am puzzled: Of all the peaks out there, why did they choose North Palisade?"

It really bugs me that politicians( Feinstein and Boxer) with no intimate connection to the Sierras, who probably have never set foot in the Sierras, are making a political decision to re-name a peak that has a long history.

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Well I'm opposed to changing the name too. If and when I ever get the chance to climb it I'd like to climb North Pal not Brower Pal. The historic name counts for something doesn't it? At the very least the public deserves some input on whether or not to change the name, this shouldn't be done in some back room of Congress.

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I've found myself ambivalent, but finally come down on opposed.

I don't neccessarily fault the politicians.....they don't know anything about these mountains, their history, how people feel. They get approached by people who are icons of climbing, published authors and owners of world class climbing companies, I would expect them to take them seriously. That Brower was a huge figure in California environmentalism cannot be denied, and that he was an important climber cannot, either. Is he a person for who a peak should be named: undoubtedly.

The political approach was used for the obvious reason: The BGN has been fairly consistant in turning down mountain naming in the Sierra. This is primarily because the local federal agencies NPS, NFS oppose such things, and that local support is neccessary, along with other criteria.

Clearly, N. Pal would not meet the criteria for the naming under the rules.

So, the end run to Congress.

Leave it to the locals? We'll be climbing Palin Peak, along with Fishermen's Peak. eek

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How about applying some synergy & fixing two wrongs at once?

Gifford Pinchot stated: "We understand that forest fires are wholly within the control of man".

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/07/fire-season/shea-text/3

Which brings us to our current sorry state (Billion dollar fire in Montecito).

Pinchot has peaks named for him in flyover country, so why not rename a glorious Sierra peak for an environmental hero & unperson the architect of our failed forest management policy?

http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/154288/mount-pinchot.html

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I'll go for that: Rename Mt. Pinchot to Mt. Brower!

And if it really happens, that makes me wonder... Could you see Brewer from Brower?


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