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Randy S #85771 07/23/11 04:28 PM
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I don't know the truth of the assertion that Black Bears have never killed in California, but they certainly have elsewhere, sometimes multiple fatalities by one bear in one incident. Usually this involves large males which can be huge. I think one was killed in Tahoe a few years back that was 600 lbs. He had been doing home invasion food raids; would just go right through the front door and tear the refrigerator apart. That type of bear isn't going to run off because you start banging pots and pans.

Doug Sr #85774 07/23/11 06:46 PM
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I did a quick check about black bear kills of humans in California, there are none recorded.

There is no shortage of bears in California. It would make sense that in hunting season the problem bears be harvested first. I would like to know if anyone from Fish & Game has any input on that idea.

For those who have a problem with that I hope you are Vegans, otherwise give up your cow burger and chicken soup. I raise my own meat animals and if bear taste good then cook them up.

If people properly took care of their food we wouldn’t have the problem that we do now.

I hope this stirs people up enough to learn how to protect their food from wild animals.

walt #85795 07/25/11 09:08 AM
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The Preacher and the Bear / Arthur Collins

This was the first million selling recording - and the biggest selling recording prior to the 1920s (the term "gold record" wasn't coined until the early 1940s and the first "gold record award" was made in the late 50s). It hit the charts in 1905, and is an example of the minstrel-style genre (storytelling with a spoken word interlude), common on early hit records. Recording artists in those days were not contracted to a single label and often re-recorded their hits on multiple labels. (Over the years the word "preacher" replaced the more offensive word "coon" in the song lyrics.) It wasn't available on iTunes, and the cylinder format - popularized by one of Thomas Edison's licensees (today known as Columbia Records)and Edison's own label - would lose out to the "grammophone" (platter) format popularized by the Victor Talking Machine Co. (today known as RCA Records).

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Bear Joke :-)

A Priest, a Pentecostal Preacher, and a Rabbi all served as chaplains to the students of University of Minnesota Duluth .

They would get together two or three times a week for coffee and to talk shop. One day, someone made the comment that preaching to people isn't really all that hard. A real challenge would be to preach to a bear. One thing led to another and they decided to do an experiment. They would all go out into the woods, find a bear, preach to it, and attempt to convert

it.

Seven days later, they're all together to discuss their experience.

Father Flannery, who has his arm in a sling, is on crutches, and has various bandages on his body and limbs, goes first. "Well," he says, "I went into the woods to find a bear. And when I found him I began to read to him from the catechism. Well, that bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my holy water, sprinkled him and, Holy Mary Mother of God, he became as gentle as a lamb. The bishop is coming out next week to give him first communion and confirmation."

Reverend Billy Bob spoke next. He was in a wheelchair, with an IV drip in his arm, and both legs in casts. In his best fire and brimstone oratory he exclaimed, "WELL, brothers, you KNOW that we don't sprinkle! I went out and I FOUND a bear. And then I began to read to my bear from God's HOLY WORD! But that bear wanted nothing to do with me. So I took HOLD of him

and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, UP another and DOWN another until we came to a creek. So I quickly DUNKED him and BAPTIZED his hairy soul. And just like you said, he became as gentle as a lamb. We spent the rest of the day praising Jesus."

The Priest and the Reverend both looked down at the Rabbi, who was lying in a hospital bed. He was in a body cast and traction with monitors and IV's running in and out of him. He was in real bad shape.

The Rabbi looks up and says, "Looking back on it, circumcision may not have been the best way to start..."

AreteJoe #85796 07/25/11 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By AreteJoe


There is no shortage of bears in California. It would make sense that in hunting season the problem bears be harvested first. I would like to know if anyone from Fish & Game has any input on that idea.



That would seem to be a good idea... but unfortunately the problem bears inconveniently are in residential and/or high use recreational areas where hunting is impossible due to safety considerations. Hunting is of necessity a largely rural activity.

bruce b #85799 07/25/11 03:19 PM
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Bears really intrigue us (especially those few with the beary corny bear jokes and puns!)and are such fascinating mammals that require respect and DEFINITELY never to be underestimated! As I read all these comments, opinions, researches, etc. I can't help but to be thankful as a Whitney lover and frequent visitor, that you folk in the MT. Whitney area and Sierras deal primarily with people's ignorance, broken windows, and food scouting when it comes to the bears. Thankfully, there are no Grizzly bears in the portals as those poor teens had to deal with in Alaska. Nature.......gotta love it.......gotta respect it!.
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AreteJoe #85802 07/25/11 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By AreteJoe
It would make sense that in hunting season the problem bears be harvested first.


To the best of my knowledge those bears at the portal will be killed. That's how they handle problem bears in Yosemite.

Please protect the bears from your food.

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